They held an Obamacare Townhall today (December 7, 2013). I must say, it was a formidable crowd. Besides myself, Keith, Mark, and the speaker, there were five people that included an older gentleman who said he was the organizer.
The young man who spoke about Obamacare we later learned was 29 years old, single, and a lawyer who had studied political science in college (I think he imagines a political future for himself). I must say, he was the most knowledgeable of all the speakers I've heard at the numerous townhalls I've been to. Knowledgeable about how Obamacare works, and what it covers, but not about its real effect. He was very patient and, unlike the organizer of the event, or the various politicians who organized other townhalls, he welcomed our input. The other five audience members….. Well, they would've probably preferred we keep our mouths shut. The speaker spent some time disputing the obvious problems with Obamacare. He said companies weren't cutting employees to part time (contrary to companies reporting that they ARE), and he said companies weren't going to cancel their employee plans. He also repeated the liberal talking point that “only” five percent of people were losing their insurance. I find that so disingenuous, coming from the side that trots out some poor shlub who doesn't have insurance at every opportunity. But the five million who had insurance they liked cancelled are dismissed as not significant.
I said it was all very nice that everyone would have an insurance card, but that didn't guarantee them access to healthcare. I told them the Washington Examiner reported just that week that seventy percent of all doctors in California would not be participating in Obamacare, and that in Los Angeles, the two best hospitals, UCLA and Cedars, are not included in most Obamacare plans. UCLA is included in two plans, and Cedars is in one. A woman in the audience said they didn't take Medi-Cal anyway, so it didn't matter. I suggested it mattered to very many people. Our speaker said he didn't believe that was true. What else is there to say, when someone flatly refuses to accept the truth?
Keith pointed out that Obamacare was a redistribution of wealth, and that natural law protects people's property from confiscation. The five members of the audience believed the government had a right to redistribute. Mark asked how the government had a right to require us to buy something we didn't want. One woman said, fine, pay the penalty, to which Mark responded by asking why should he be penalized for not buying something.
The organizer then told us this was a meeting to explain the plan, not to debate it. He used the same old argument that "we're all in this together", and that government makes us wear seat belts and have car insurance. I mentioned that no one is required to own a car.
After the meeting the speaker spoke to us about his support for Obamacare. He said the government imposes many laws on us ~ we can't murder, we can't steal. I told him that was the 10 Commandments, which were from God, not from man. He was a very nice, sincere young man. I have no doubt he believes what he is saying. I just think he's a product of our very liberal education system. I would not be surprised if, after he married and had children, his viewpoints changed somewhat. After all, they say if you're not a liberal in your twenties, you have no heart…… But if you aren't a conservative in your forties, you have no brain.